The Married And Naked Podcast - Marriage Secrets Revealed
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The Married And Naked Podcast - Marriage Secrets Revealed
From Awkward to Forever - Episode 68
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In this special episode, we’re sharing our full love story.
From the moment we met in junior high with a simple handshake to 27 years of marriage (and counting). We discuss how our friendship began, the letters we exchanged in school, our first slow dance, and the kiss that changed everything.
We reflect on everything from our first slow dance to renewing our vows 25 years later. And how choosing each other young didn’t mean missing out. It meant growing up and growing closer.
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Welcome to the Married and Naked Podcast. I'm Tammy, founder of the blog Married and Naked, certified sexuality coach and speaker.
Speaker 2:And I'm Joel, tv host, motivational speaker and the guinea pig to the lessons you're about to learn.
Speaker 1:We're high school sweethearts, married over two decades, and we're on a mission to help you create the marriage you desire and deserve. Let's get naked. Welcome to the Married and Naked podcast.
Speaker 2:Hi everybody. Hi Joel, how are you today? I am good, I'm eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
Speaker 1:Probably a poor choice for a podcast.
Speaker 2:I think you hit the record button just a little too soon. That's what I think.
Speaker 1:How's it going, baby?
Speaker 2:It's going good, sweetheart. How are you doing Good? I will say this. I was just starting to share with you a dilemma that I think I had.
Speaker 1:And you said, wait, wait, wait, let's get this on the podcast, so can I save it for this.
Speaker 2:Save the story for the podcast. Okay, let me finish sharing with you the dilemma. I was at the place where we pick up our mail and one of the ladies behind the counter says our box number, right off the like. She literally says our box number and I went oh, how do you remember that? And she said oh, I'll never forget somebody who brings me cookies in December. She has said this to me three times and every time there's a crowd of people in there and she says it loud enough so everybody can hear it. Here's the dilemma I have not brought them a crowd of people in there and she says it loud enough so everybody can hear it. Here's the dilemma I have not brought them a box of cookies in December, so I don't know what to do.
Speaker 1:She's mistaking you for somebody else and you're getting preferential treatment because of it. I mean, are you getting special treatment because of it? She remembers being kind.
Speaker 2:She remembers the box number. She goes and gets the mail. This is one where the boxes are behind the the counter, and so she goes, gets the mail and brings it to me. I mean, that's the preferential treatment. But the fact that she remembers and she is associating me with something or someone that's not me, yeah, it makes me feel so uncomfortable and I don't know what to do. Do I hey, by the way, it's not me that did that to you or for you? Or do I bring in a box of cookies now to just absolve me of this guilt? Or I've got C. Is she elaborately setting me up for December?
Speaker 1:You mean she's trying to get you to bring her a box of cookies?
Speaker 2:A hundred percent. Like is she laying the foundation to bring, to have me bring a box of cookies in December? And because there's so many people in the store every time, everyone else is hearing that too.
Speaker 1:Okay, I think that that's a. No, I'm going to. I'm going to reject C. I don't think. Think that's the plan so are you getting preferential treatment, or are you still waiting in line and going about just like everybody else? She just happens to think she knows you.
Speaker 2:I? I think I'm still waiting in line. Yeah, so it's not like I'm being you know. Hey, let me go get your mail when there's five people in front of me. No, no, okay so what would you do?
Speaker 1:let's see a. You just let it go.
Speaker 2:Oh, I didn't even give that option. I didn't give that option.
Speaker 1:That's definitely an option. Okay, let it go, and you say nothing.
Speaker 2:Okay, b B, I come clean.
Speaker 1:You come clean.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You just say I'm sorry, you've got me mistaken. I never brought you cookies and I feel real bad about that, so I got to get out of my chest.
Speaker 2:But she's done it three times. Now I'm in the hole.
Speaker 1:I'm in the hole right now, you can still come clean, though.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Or C? Do I just bring in cookies now to absolve my guilt?
Speaker 1:And do what?
Speaker 2:Just say, hey, I just wanted to bring you cookies, that's it.
Speaker 1:No, because then you're still taking credit for something you didn't do. I mean, if that's what you want to do, here's what I think you should do.
Speaker 2:Okay, what.
Speaker 1:I think you bring in the cookies and you say, hey, you've been saying that I'm the one that brought in cookies, but you've got me mistaken for somebody else. But I'm bringing you cookies now. So now you can be correct in that I brought you cookies, but I brought them in June.
Speaker 2:Okay, Okay, okay. I like this plan. I think that's a good plan, or I'm still going to go with D, the outlier that she's setting me up.
Speaker 1:She's not setting you up.
Speaker 2:She might be setting me up.
Speaker 1:That's too long.
Speaker 2:No, because here's the deal. Why would?
Speaker 1:somebody want to wait an entire year for cookies.
Speaker 2:Because here's the deal year for cookies.
Speaker 1:Because here's the deal you darn tootin, I'm gonna bring cookies in in december. Now did you say darn tootin? You never say darn to you're.
Speaker 2:You're like 85 years old you bet I'm bringing cookies in this december I think you should just go get them come clean okay and say fresh start.
Speaker 1:Now you can say I'm the one who brought them to you in june okay, see, this is why I go to you.
Speaker 2:You're, you're, you're my angel on my shoulder.
Speaker 1:I think it's cute that it's bothering you and you don't just like I take it and run.
Speaker 2:So you know that it would bug me too.
Speaker 1:I would be saying I'm not the one.
Speaker 2:You'd just be holding the white flag, right away.
Speaker 1:I think so, yeah, you.
Speaker 2:You know, for me, obviously I get credit.
Speaker 1:Or I'd be like did I bring you cookies? That's true. Did I? That is true? Maybe I did bring you cookies.
Speaker 2:Don't doubt yourself, because you probably did, didn't, didn't, didn't, never mind, because you don't know with you.
Speaker 1:What does that mean? You don't know with me.
Speaker 2:Oh, we're going to. I thought we just walked right over that.
Speaker 1:Because you know you probably may have or you probably didn't, but you'll never remember because I have terrible memory. Yeah, yeah yeah, we were just gonna go right over that, okay, but you had to stop and and unpack that so it's a good story.
Speaker 1:I like it all right. Well, good luck and report back what you do. Joel and I've been doing this podcast since 2020. We we started in 2020, like a month before COVID the shutdown obviously having no idea it was coming our way, and we've, you know, done it kind of on and off, but always kind of on, just sporadically, throughout. It's been a really long time that we've been doing this and I'm not sure that we've ever shared truly shared our story, so it seems like a good time to do that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this was, I know, when you mentioned it before we started I was like, wow, that's kind of cool. I guess we really hadn't shared our story. And I went back and kind of listened to the first few episodes and, yeah, we just, you know, kind of briefly told about our story, but we didn't really like share how you and I started and so, yeah, it's kind of we say in the beginning we're high school sweethearts.
Speaker 1:So clearly you know that. But today we thought we'd share a little bit of our story with you.
Speaker 2:We're going to get died back, so here we go.
Speaker 1:I grew up in Chino, california, and I went to elementary school and our elementary school most of the kids that graduated sixth grade with me transferred with me into seventh grade. So our junior high was seventh and eighth grade. So we I transferred into seventh grade and for whatever reason, those friendships just kind of dissolved, even though they were like my best friends. I don't know what happened. I think it happens to some people. In seventh grade I was without friends pretty much and we had lockers then. I don't think many people have lockers anymore, but we had lockers then and I had a locker next to a girl named Shauna and we hit it off right away. We became kind of fast friends and I'll stop there because I'm not quite sure your story in coming into seventh grade, into that junior high.
Speaker 2:First of all, people are like oh dang, we're going all the way back.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah that is where our story began.
Speaker 2:From sixth grade to seventh grade. My relationships were obliterated because my mom and stepdad got married and I moved from Rialto, California, to Chino, California.
Speaker 1:Which isn't very far, but obviously you're moving schools like 25 minutes away. So yeah, there's no more friendships no more friendship, no internet back then or no, texting yeah.
Speaker 2:Everybody was gone and so and it was, it was, it was really cool, it was a good move, it was an exciting time. You know, my mom was really happy and my stepdad was really awesome. They're still married to this day and we've talked a lot about them on this, on this podcast.
Speaker 1:But um so seventh grade. Uh, you know.
Speaker 2:I moved into, so seventh grade. I moved into seventh grade not knowing a single soul at this school and it wasn't very long into the school where Shauna was in one of my classes. I don't think she ever said like, hey, I want to introduce you to this person. I just remember the introduction.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I remember her walking up to me. It was in the beginning of seventh grade. Early on in seventh grade, walking up to me, you were next to her and she said something to the effect of Tammy, I want you to meet Joel. And I remember you put your hand out to shake mine and I always think that's the funniest thing and it's just such a I don't know indication of like who you are and who you were, because you who shakes hands when you, we were 11 years old, we were 11.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Were we going on 12 then no, well, no, I think we, just I don't know it may be going on, but I think we were still 11.
Speaker 1:It was early on, yeah, anyway. Yeah, you put your hand out to shake mine and I was like, who is this weird kid shaking? Okay, shauna, and that was the day that our life changed forever. But we didn't know that at that time, but it truly changed our lives, her introducing you and I way back then.
Speaker 2:You know, it's so funny If you think about all the people that I'm talking to you, the listener. Funny If you think about all the people that I'm talking to you, the listener, all the people you meet throughout your life. If you can go back to that moment, you met yours, you know. Call it a soulmate, call it your spouse. Did you know? Could you know? Did you have any feeling? And it's such a weird thing because we think and talk about this a lot Like I had no clue.
Speaker 1:We were children. I think a lot of people do know, like I've heard, like love at first sight or I knew the moment I saw them I was going to marry them. And I think ours is a little bit unique because it's hard for us to remember, because it was so long ago and we were just children.
Speaker 2:We're just kids. That's the part.
Speaker 1:Like I don't clearly remember what that day looked like or anything like that. It's kind of vague in my head. I just know that we were introduced by Shauna.
Speaker 2:You know what, though? I remember that day, that meeting, that handshake. I remember what you were wearing.
Speaker 1:I remember the bag you had on your remember what I was wearing you?
Speaker 2:had a jean jacket on with a white shirt, jeans, and you had a jean bag on your on your shoulder.
Speaker 1:I remember I didn't know. You remember what I wore? I? Think I remember that's so accurate to what I wore all in middle school.
Speaker 2:Shauna had curly black or dark brown long hair and I swear she was wearing a pink top with jeans.
Speaker 1:Well, after that meeting I'm not sure exactly what happened, and shortly after this is. I don't have any memories between this time, but we connected or met up, not even met up we came across each other at the seventh grade dance and that was my first school dance ever. I'd never been to a school dance before, had you?
Speaker 1:No, yeah, very first school dance after school and I remember I don't even remember you asking, but I remember we slow danced together and obviously this was my first dance. This is my very first slow dance and my recollection of it is awkward. Do you remember asking me to slow dance?
Speaker 2:I don't remember asking you to slow dance. I just remember slow dancing with you.
Speaker 1:And then what I asked you when we were done slow dancing Well, what I remember about the slow dance is that our arms were, I mean, locked tight, like as far back as we can be from each other. I remember that it just felt awkward, like you don't really want to make eye contact. You know you think it's going to be so romantic, and then it's definitely not romantic, it's just so scary and awkward. And I have a recollection of it being a song that friends lean on me and that's what I think the song was. Wow.
Speaker 2:See, I don't remember that. That's remarkable that you can remember. If that's accurate, let's just say it's accurate, because that song became a theme in our relationship as we move forward.
Speaker 1:Well, wouldn't that make sense? Then it would make sense.
Speaker 2:So we're just going to give you that as a kudo right there, I think it was.
Speaker 1:but okay, I'll take it.
Speaker 2:What I remember is after that I asked you will you go out with me Right Back?
Speaker 1:then we called I guess kids date, no, you don't date. Back then but at school. You called it going out.
Speaker 2:Going out, yeah, yeah. And guess what she said? I think I've shared before in the podcast here. You said no.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I said no. I wonder why I said no. I think I was just too scared and uncomfortable. Again she's a shy girl.
Speaker 2:So, if we think about this seventh grade I'm in a new school I met this incredible girl. I obviously thought she was incredible enough to ask her out the first person I had ever asked out, the first person I'd ever danced with at a school dance. And she says no, I said no baby but I got thick skin, so we'll continue on.
Speaker 1:Well, I don't know what happened after that details. I just know we became friends and we started hanging out, Like I. The earliest one memories I have of like spending time with you is like in the library. We would hang out at lunchtime in the library.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:With the couple friends that we did have.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:At that time and then, somewhere along the way, we would talk on the phone.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then what I really remember is you and I would write these friendship letters and they were truly friendship letters, but we would talk about, like, how great each other was, how much we loved each other, but as friends, yeah. And we'd write these really long letters and we'd fold them up in the cute ways that you do. You know, you tuck them in these really cute, like origami style ways and we would slip them in each other's lockers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we did this all of seventh grade.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And we became really great friends.
Speaker 1:By the end of seventh grade, I truly considered you my best friend.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Certainly my best friend at school, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was awesome. And then between seventh and eighth grade I took off. I left you, I went to Sacramento and lived with my father for about four months and then it didn't last very long Came back right after the- To live with your mom again. To live with my mom again right after December Came back in January. I didn't come back to the same junior high school, I went to a different junior high school.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But our friendship picked right up where we left it.
Speaker 1:All I remember. I don't even know if we stayed in touch during that time. I don't remember what happened. All I remember is one day you were back at my door again and I feel like you had a cast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and in fact, let's set this up. So Tammy and I lived approximately a mile, a mile and a half apart. Yeah, it was within walking, riding, bike distance. You know what I mean. So yeah, you're right. I came back, I had a I had a plane around with my friend on our grass lawn and I injured my one of my fingers and I ended up having a cast that went over my hand.
Speaker 1:So it looked ridiculous.
Speaker 2:Yeah and yeah, I showed up and I was like, hey, you remember me, kind of like remember me, and I just remember, like, oh, I didn't know how much I missed you. We must have spent the rest of the day together and it was just like, even though we were at different schools, we picked up the conversations on the phone, yeah. And then, as we get towards ninth grade, you uh, the summer, you like, I want to introduce you to my best friend.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my, my best friend prior to Joel was always my cousin and I introduced you to her because we were always hanging out.
Speaker 2:Then, yeah, and then Joel decided he wanted you're just going to go right into that huh he decided he wanted to date her oh, wow even though my debt, my feelings for you were definitely growing, if not in full bloom, by then but to be fair, I didn't know that I didn't know that and it wasn't until we were together uh, your cousin and I that I started recognizing oh, oh, there's something else here with you, and I didn't know that, but you were still like that person I was talking to all the time, communicating with, sharing with what was going on between me and your cousin, and you always-.
Speaker 1:I was your confidant, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you were, and so-.
Speaker 1:We spent a lot of time together.
Speaker 2:You did, we spent, we, we spent.
Speaker 1:I, honestly, I spent more time with you than I spent with your cousin and we were you know the ones together, and then I started seeing somebody if you can call it seeing, when you're in ninth grade, and I thought I'm just going to do this because Joel doesn't like me is kind of what. I thought. He just likes her and so I'm going to go and be with somebody else.
Speaker 2:And he's a good guy too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I kind of gave up on the idea of you wanting to be with me. And then one day that just all changed. Well, you got, my cousin broke up with you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I, yes, I was. I was heartbroken, you were a little heartbroken.
Speaker 1:So you spent more time with me. We spent the, and that was the whole summer. We spent kind of the whole summer just hanging out and you would come over to my house and we would sit on my porch, cause you weren't allowed to come inside my house. We'd sit on my porch and we'd talk, and I don't know, we just hung out every single day.
Speaker 2:Your house was literally right around the corner from our high school, and so I would go to your house every day, and then, I don't know, around the time, either your folks came home or one of your parents came home, or I'd be invited to dinner with your folks all the time. I'd eat there and then I'd go home. I'd ride my bike home to my house, which is, like I said, about a mile and a half away at this time, and we did this all summer, like you said. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then one day, about a month or so before our 10th grade, we I don't know what happened, but we had our first kiss.
Speaker 2:Well, I know what happened you went away on a trip, and then I went away on a trip and while I was on this trip, I just remember thinking, like I can't stop thinking about you. Like I liked you so much, I liked you, so you and we were like 14 at this time, right yeah. I think we were 13.
Speaker 1:13 or 14, yeah.
Speaker 2:I think we were turning 14. And I just I couldn't stop thinking. I was even with a group. I was in Hawaii with my family and I was even with this group of people that I felt were flirting with me. And these girls that were flirting and having a good time, and and I was just like you know, do you have a girl at home? No, I got a best friend. What's her? Name or what's their name, and I'm like his name and I'm like, oh, his name is Tammy.
Speaker 1:I just remember thinking oh my gosh, I really like Tammy. One day we had our first kiss and I did have a boyfriend at the time I had kind of fooled myself that I didn't have feelings about you, you didn't have feelings about me. And one day there was just magic in the air, I don't know, and we had our first kiss and the very next day I told my boyfriend I needed to break up with him. And he was devastated. And I still feel bad about that, real bad. And then that was it for us. From that moment forward, we never, ever, ever, looked back, we never broke up. We have been together practically every day, ever since 10th grade other practically every day ever since 10th grade.
Speaker 2:That kiss happened on August 14th and nine years after we had that first kiss, like you said, high school sweethearts. Then we went to college, went to separate colleges.
Speaker 1:We were voted most likely to get married in our high school yearbook. I just did a story on that recently, showing the picture of us in our high school yearbook. We went to college. We stayed at home and went to college. We went to college not too far from each other, but we were still home. So every night after college I would come over to your house and hang out. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's crazy and then nine years later less than nine years later, I guess you proposed when I was in my final year of college, up in the freezing mountains.
Speaker 2:Mount Charleston Las.
Speaker 1:Vegas, in Nevada, and you were walking around the mountains and I'm like what are we doing up here? It is so cold, I really don't like the snow. Like what are we doing here? And I don't know. I turned around and was looking at something. When I turned back, you were on your knee and you proposed and that was a magical day. Yeah, truly magical.
Speaker 2:And we got married on August 15th. We couldn't do it on the 14th because it was A Friday.
Speaker 1:I believe A Friday yeah.
Speaker 2:So we got married on August 15th. Couldn't do it on the 14th because it was a friday, I believe a friday, yeah, so we got married on august 15th um 1998. Yeah, so it's crazy. So this summer is our 27th year yeah, and we renewed our vows two years ago.
Speaker 1:Two years ago on the 25th, on our 25th year, yeah yeah, yeah, so it's, yeah, yeah, yeah, so it's been a long beautiful crazy, you know.
Speaker 2:Challenging.
Speaker 1:Challenging, sometimes heartbreaking.
Speaker 2:Rewarding.
Speaker 1:Amazing love story.
Speaker 2:Yeah, two grown kids now. Yeah, which is incredible. You know the one thing. It's so incredible when we sit here and lay this out and we go over our story. You know it's beautiful, it's strange, it's different and it's also, I feel, like man, do we put pressure on our kids to have this kind of love story?
Speaker 1:You know we do because they've told us. They said like gosh, like talk about you know something to live up to. They've always felt this sense that they were supposed to meet their person in school too. It's been a hard thing for them to navigate as well. Yeah, and I get it. You know, I think we're a very rare, a rare thing and for whatever reason, at 13 years old or 12 years old, we decided this was 12, we decided we wanted to be friends and just kept that going and kept working on our friendship and not letting that go Like that's a very rare thing. And then for that to then turn into a relationship, so I kind of feel bad.
Speaker 1:We set them up for that, but you can't do anything about that, my hope is, they just are learning what it's like to be in a relationship and the work that it takes and the love that it takes, and what's possible for them if they do commit and work on a relationship. Because we're now 27 years this August and we found our way to our best years yet. Yeah, 100% yeah through a ton of ton of work and a lot, a lot of lows, but we're better than ever, and so I hope that that's what they're learning is possible for them.
Speaker 2:You know, over the years, I've had so many people say to me and I know they've said variations to you as well but, like, hey, don't you feel like you missed out? Or don't you feel like you you know you didn't play the field or you didn't see what? And I've always I always say this to you and I've always remained firm on this Like, what am I missing out on? Like, really, tell me what I'm missing out on Variety. Is that what I'm missing out on? Different people. I never, ever, thought I wanted to spend the time, energy and effort in trying to develop something that I already knew I had. And I think that's the thing that you know. I've always said this to you like, you are like my best friend, what am I going to look for in somebody else? And I wonder, like, is there something for you? That people have always said to you Like, hey, what about this? Or what about that? Have you missed out?
Speaker 1:It's the same question.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Do you feel like you missed out? I don't feel like I missed out on relationships. I wouldn't want that any other way. I sometimes wish that I had spent time on my own before we got married, so like moved out on my own so that I had an opportunity just to experience being on my own. My own, so that I had an opportunity just to experience being on my own because I went, we went from home right into marriage, not being apart from you, just living on my own. Because of my personality type, I mean, you know I I have a hard time separating myself from you and your needs. So I sometimes wish I had known or done better in fighting for my own independence while we're together, if that makes sense at all it's not a regret at all.
Speaker 1:I don't have any regrets about our relationship or our path, but it's now something I'm working on now which is much harder to do when you're 50 years old is figuring out how do I become my own person when I don't even quite know a lot of who I am. Or my path went right into you as a young girl and you're a big, bright, strong personality and I followed that path and I supported and lifted and did everything I could for you, and in that and also being a mom and in that, I lost a lot of me, or I never knew. That's what I really think. I never figured out who she fully was. Yeah, so that's what I'm trying to do now, but I don't feel like there's any ever was a time that I didn't, that I wished I had had more opportunities with other people. That's never been a wish of mine. Yeah, our path has been incredible and that's just been my journey and now I'm on it, you know, in a discovery mode now, which is great in your fifties too. So there's no regrets.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:We've had a beautiful, beautiful love story.
Speaker 2:Incredible love story.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it's like. I mean one they make movies about.
Speaker 2:It's like when they do podcast on special.
Speaker 1:And yeah. Yeah, although when I put out, are you to like my followers? Are you high school sweethearts too, man? Yeah, a lot of people have our story, so we're not that unique well and in here, okay.
Speaker 2:So here's the other thing in your family. It is absolutely mind-boggling.
Speaker 1:Your sister married her high school sweetheart yes, they had a different path than us, but yeah, true, your brother married his high school sweetheart, yes, and your other brother? Or they knew each other in high school, but they they weren't together then yeah and your other sister yeah, they had a very interesting path of many, many years, but then came back to each other.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So I guess all of us wound up with people that we knew or dated in high school.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's funny, not my parents, but yeah. Not your parents.
Speaker 1:That is funny. There was many, many times where we thought happy ever after is not a part of our story.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And we kept fighting.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Kept fighting, and fighting I mean in the good way, fighting for each other.
Speaker 2:I know you talk about this a lot and you've said we've said this a lot through different episodes that is, we change, we evolve. We're not the same people we were when we were 11, 12, 13, 14, 15. Sure, or 23, when we got married, or even three years ago. We are continuously changing. So that, to me, is the most remarkable part of our story is that we are continuously evolving and changing with each other. I just want to say, if anybody knows where Shauna is, I yes, her name was Shauna Alvarado. Yes.
Speaker 1:We went to Townsend Junior High in Chino Hills, california, and that would have been.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it was 86.
Speaker 1:It would have been like 1986, I believe.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't remember at all what happened to Shauna. I don't remember us even having like this really long relationship, even in seventh grade. I feel like maybe she moved away.
Speaker 1:I don't know what happened. I feel like she was just in our life for this very short period of time, and then I have no memory of her after that. So I think she moved away and, if anybody knows, I've always, always, always I've looked at her up on Facebook, I've tried to figure out how to find her, yeah, but I would sure like to thank her.
Speaker 2:Oh, we both like to thank her. We owe her a wow, so much.
Speaker 1:So thank you, Shauna.
Speaker 2:Thank you, Shauna.
Speaker 1:When we were 11 years old. What a lucky day that was.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thank you, baby.
Speaker 1:Thank you.
Speaker 2:I years old. What a lucky day that was. Yeah, thank you, baby. Thank you, I love you so much.
Speaker 1:I love you more than anything, kosh, and that's that, there's our story. Thank you for listening. If you want to share your story with us, your love story, we would love to hear that too. You can email us at marriedin the letter N naked at gmailcom, and we'll talk to you next time on the Married and Naked podcast. Bye, everybody.
